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Trump talked to michael cohen about his testimony. >> which would be perfectly normal. >> so it's possible that happened, that president trump talked to michael cohen. >> i don't know if it happened or didn't happen. it might attorney/client privilege where i can't acknowledge. i have no knowledge he spoke to him. it's not significant because the version he gave -- >> but one of the things he pleaded guilty to, i believe, is lying to congress about the trump tower deal. >> which time? which time? you can pick your time. >> right, but about the trump tower deal. >> he's pleading guilty to get a...

Charles hurt, opinion editor for "the washington times," and steve hilton, former advisor to british prime minister david cameron. charlie, your thoughts. >> well, i am particularly struck by the stark differences between what "the new york times" is reporting and what the white house has said. it's a flat denial. i do think, as you pointed out, it's very important to remember we are talking about parts of a letter that were read over the phone to a reporter. we don't know the full, with the full letter is. it is not in that context but we don't know what jim comey walked away from that conver...

Charles hurt, opinion editor for "the washington times," and steve hilton, former advisor to british prime minister david cameron. charlie, your thoughts. >> well, i am particularly struck by the stark differences between what "the new york times" is reporting and what the white house has said. it's a flat denial. i do think, as you pointed out, it's very important to remember we are talking about parts of a letter that were read over the phone to a reporter. we don't know the full, with the full letter is. it is not in that context but we don't know what jim comey walked away from that conver...

>> we started working our way out into the suburbs really of phoenix andé& there. >> these are the key hugely strong areas in 2012. these are areas where he did better than expected. >> than he should have. >> you were reaching out beyond there in areas near the beet red areas. >> exactly. >> i can see the clinton campaign watching us have this conversation thinking, you know what? these are areas where we want to be also. >> for sure. the map is clear where folks need to been coverted. it is absolutely in red and blue. >> it was neat to be inside the campaign war room and see the map. the de...

Incident folds in those pre-existing stereo types the country has about people they don't understand. so we're pushing back and saying whoa, we don't know if he had a brain injury, we don't know if he had ptsd, even if he did, that doesn't explain any of this, a lot of rampages happened in other places and you may nef know what happened here. i think we have to understand like the shooting in fort hood or what happened with gab by gifford, we may never know what happened. we have to go in the conversation thinking about that. what do you think about the fact this is getting a lot of peoples'...