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House republicans put out something more akin to a bit of a defense brief in their report on the republican side. and so david, let me read to you. they say in a finding manafort and kushner and junior attended but did not obtain derogatory information about clinton on russian sources. what do you make of that defense? we might have wanted to do something potentially illegal, but we couldn't pull it off? >> we don't know that they didn't pull it off. we have all the evidence they did pull it off. they may not have received the f information at this meeting. but information came from the russia...

Throughout the campaign. so i wouldn't look at this meeting as the entirety of this whole thing. the other thing about what happened with the house republicans and this whitewash report by devin nun yez who is the pr guy for the white house, they said trump junior and manafort showed trump junior. i think that's the understatement of the year. you look at richard engel's interview with this woman. it doesn't tack -- you don't have to watch a whole season of "homeland" to think maybe this woman is connected to the russians in not a very good way. she is representing that she has information and...