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Absolutely not. that's what everyone needs to figure out, whether there's any proof of which side is telling the truth. >> the other big news, that tape. we know there's not a tape in this case, according to our reporting. something else caught my eye. sources saying that several others were in the room when trump was told about this meeting, according to cohen. that's interesting. they could be courroborating evidence. >> that's the trkey. who are these people? does bob mueller know who those people are? are they telling the same story that michael cohen is telling? what michael cohen's legal...

Poppy has been working on hers. >> i knew crass was going to do this. i'm going to punt. i'm going to go to the man who matters more over mine. merciful. father thomas, the pope in 3 words and to you, delia. >> i have to say mine now? >> you have to do it. >> great, happy, normal. >> i love those. delia? >> i will do it one last time and give you the latin. this is the classic. [speaking foreign language] . those are the words the pope uses to describe him. it references jesus choosing st. matthew and when he felt this conversion experience. he chose that as his own motto. >> delia has a theor...

Africa by an african slave trader. that's the thing about our story. >> it's both sides of it. >> he was branded a slave. >> what happened to him? >> he had a conversion experience on a ship. >> after that later in life? >> he became an anglican priest and spent his life being a preacher. >> it took him years to unrang unwrangle the slave trade. >> tell viewers why they should come see it. what feeling do you walk away with? >> i was there last night. people leap to their feet. we met new yorkers people from the south west abroad. they are so excited to be able to stand up and sing a song at t...

At some level i don't support it but sure i'll go to the wedding. or the upper left quadrant. that's more humanizing but it's also, like, a complete ideological and philosophical basket case. what is the rationale for showing up at something you think is deeply violation that should be illegal. >> it goes back to the birthday party thing for me. i'm at your birthday party. i wish you didn't have a birthday to celebrate but here we are. happy birthday. next year i hope you don't have another one of these. it's a little bit a conflict. a lot of us who are gay, lesbian, bi-have had same sex weddi...

Party thing for me. i'm at your birthday party. i wish you didn't have a birthday to celebrate but here we are. happy birthday. next year i hope you don't have another one of these. it's a little bit a conflict. a lot of us who are gay, lesbian, bi who have had same-sex weddings have been in the position that we invited family that haven't yet come around on our relationships, and it wasn't for many until they were at the welding and saw how we were treated by our friends and other family members that they finally came on board. >> hope for them all. the conversion experience of a big festive ...