Do with me and very much how they perceived george. >> uh-huh. >> explain what you mean. >> i think that's a little bit of a bias, the media bias that everyone talks about a lot, and i think that's part of it. i also think that because george was a conservative, a republican president, that people assumed that i was, you know, cookie-baking, stay-at-home mother, and i think that's sort of the box that we put our first ladies in every time, you know, barbara bush was certainly seen as a grandmotherly type, and she was a grandmother and a wonderful grandmother to her children, but she's also a v...