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That is another concern, i think people here are much more, there's a bit of a difference in thinking people here are much more concerned about destabilization and hybrid warfare and all of that. paul: okay, what about the response to that? how would the ukrainians respond? do they have the capacity to do it? would the government be vulnerable to the scenario you described? >> that is the real concern. you see the society coming together saying we have to keep a cool head in this moment because the risk is so high. this past weekend i went out in the outskirts of kiev showing up training they ...

Russians to come in because they would be delighted that the russians come into their assistance. i just hope everybody is keeping a cool head and we don't blunder our way into a fight. >> colonel leighton do you have similar concerns and at this point, what's the answer? >> well, christi, yeah, i have similar concerns i think about the very separatist forces in eastern ukraine, they clearly don't have the same degree of command and control that disciplined russian forces would have. so, it is very possible that we could blunder our way into a major conflict if we're not careful, that is defin...

Nic robertson is live in moscow. first i want to go to melissa bell in kyiv. as we look at the new lines getting in. instead of deescalation, we are seeing unfortunately escalation on land and at sea with those naval exercises in the black sea. is president zelensky still able to keep a cool head as this all unfolds? >> reporter: i think there's been a decided shift in what we're beginning to hear from ukrainian government ministers with regard to what's happening at ukraine's borders. we heard it yesterday from the defense minister who was reacting to the news that as a result the black z wil...

Would be delighted if the russians came into their assistance so i just hope that everybody is keeping a cool head about what's happening on the ground and we don't blunder our way into a fight. >> evelyn, let me ask you about this call tomorrow. um, you know, it -- perhaps there have been talk that the call might not be for a day or two. the biden administration wanted it tomorrow. putin acquiesced so this call is tomorrow morning. you heard it at 11:00 a.m. is there anything that could be said -- look, this call is all we have, at this point, right now, right? it's all we have. so, to say oh...

Be doing now? well, introduce martial law _ be doing now? well, introduce martial law for _ be doing now? well, introduce martial law for sure, _ be doing now? well, introduce martial law for sure, but - be doing now? well, introduce martial law for sure, but the i be doing now? well, introduce - martial law for sure, but the appeal to ukrainian people is still to keep calm, keep a cool head as far as it is possible in these drastic times and these awful situation we are all in. at the moment, ukraine is doing all of that, fighting back with all we have, but i am afraid this will not be enough...