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>> everyone knows in a normal evolution of an investigation, there's always the biggest possible target. you know, the kingpin in the mob investigation. and they never start there. they always kind of work their way up. because they expect, as they work their way up the chain, some of the underlings will start to give up things. >> the way you approach something like this. it's like an onion with a rotten outside. you peel away one layer at a time. and maybe, you know, you get all the rotten layers out and you can use, you know, what's left. you don't just take a mallet and smash the onion. yo...

Going very cautiously, very carefully. >> i want to get back to this cooperation thing. i'm not as convinced that the governor is going to cooperate. he issued a statement today saying governor christie made clear last week that he will conduct an internal review to unkor the kt fas surrounding the lane closures in ft. lee. by the way, i just want to stop about that. there's something peculiar about that. the reason he gave us that he didn't conduct an immediate review about bridget anne kelly is he said he didn't want to tamper with any of the witnesses you might be calling. now he's saying i...