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Going on. kim jong un may be showing propaganda videos with the capitol in their sights and trying to as they always do flamboyantly give us the finger. i think that is what is going on. we have to see whether donald trump has a measured response. one thing about trump. when abe was with him in mar-a-lago, there was a missile test then. that was the first moment i saw donald trump be slightly more measured. he did not come out and react. that shows us someone around donald trump is tempering his overreacting tendencies. >> he said he had to behave about certain comments. when we think about ...

Raising interesting questions whether or not we have the capacity in the systems to make these things essentially fail. >> what do you think of the possibility this could be a rope-a-dope? north korea doesn't like failure and propaganda about being the best. a rope-a-dope. show the world we're failing at this. draw trump into some type of aggressive action and gets us on the hook as if we're the agitator. >> it looks like kim jong un and donald trump are on the collision course with each other. the first more calm measured comment on all of this was from rex tillerson. rex tillerson said we do...

Sessions striking a slightly different tone from president trump. he said dreamers can rest easy. joining us now a former dnc staffer and maria, co-founder of the remembrance project. good to see you both. is this good cop/bad cop? the president has come on softer on dreamers and many times he has been that way. the attorney general is saying law and order is back in town and people are here illegally they may have to go. >> he is right, shannon. and president trump has his priorities. he is very wise in not being distracted and he is building the wall. he is removing criminal illegal aliens. ...

China and countries all over the world that long ago committed to a denuclearized korean peninsula. >> nakimberly, to you, the vice president said that north korea is getting the message. what signs have you seen after this giant military parade saturday by north korea they are getting any message? >> so far the only message they seem to be receiving is they are under threat and they are responding with threatening language of their own. china has tried to send an envoy there and that has been rebuffed. that is bad news. the question is is the u.s. playing such a bad cop in this good cop/bad c...

President of china was sitting there at dinner with him in malabo. at that sends a message a china that if you want to do this peacefully, we want to do it peaceably, we need your help. >> martha: reminds me of some ways of richard nixon, this feeling in the world that people weren't quite sure what he would do next and his state department sort of did the diplomacy behind the seas, we have tillerson doing that now and you are with the state department. is there sort of a good cop bad cop for lack of a better term going on here that may be effective or might sort of refigure things to where th...