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Trump campaign, and so the question is what happens to paul manafort? does he flip? and then does he provide information about others that are under investigation in this special counsel probe, wolf. >> it clearly is designed, at least in part, evan, to put that kind of enormous pressure on paul manafort, the former trump campaign chairman, to go ahead and cop a plea himself, to plead guil guilty, to cooperate, and hope for some sort of reduced sentence. i assume that's part of the strategy here. >> right. that has been the strategy from day one. we've seen very, very aggressive moves by the s...

And manafort to cop a plea, to plea guilty, to fully cooperate, because they potentially have useful information about what? >> it could be a whole number of things. paul manafort was a significant figure in the campaign for a substantial period of time. even though people in the trump white house like to discount him, like they do everyone who runs afoul of the law, or runs afoul of the boss, he could have information about dealings with other countries, he could have information about potential quid pro quo s that went on. he could have information about the interactions with russia. the sky...

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