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On. i'll drag him around. i'll show him whatever he wants to see. i want to convince him and show him some of his policies are not the right direction. i don't need him campaigning forme i need him to change some policies. >> not a very traditional campaign appearance. >> as much distance between you and the president now as between here and alaska i want to say after that answer. >> we've had our differences as you know on oil and gas and arctic oil exploration. tug-of-war, had to really push him a long ways to get him to agree to move forward on what we think is an incredible oil and gas dis...

Of consequences. i would contrast that with the bill brought forward by graham and cassidy that would allow states to eliminate the important protections, but the bill by williams and murray keeps the essentials in place, and gives more flexibility for those that meet those benefits, and there's a copper plan that is available for people up to age 29, and substantially cheaper, and it would still cover the benefits but have a higher deductible. that would be attractive in helping span the pool, and that's what insurance is all about. we have to expanded the pool if we are going to keep premium...

Surge at the end. that is the reason for the end. if you listen to david plouffe if you counted[ @&c @3 medicare expansion it looks like it is up to ten million. you have to wonder if this thing is so successful, why are democrats running from it? if there was a victory to declare, if there was a bow to be taken, nancy pelosi and harry reid would be out front and center but right now you don't have anybody doing that. the word last week from a democratic strategist was don't defend it. mend it. maybe that's the reason why senator angus king who clearly was saying i want to fix obamacare and w...

Observers. they say we don't have any information when things are going wrong. when they find something where they think it might be going right, they immediately release it on a dime. >> we don't know how many people are paying their premiums of that 6 million. >> we don't know how many people have succeeded in getting through some of the ongoing enrollment glitches. if things are going so well, why announce another delay? number 38 since last year. >> dan, if things are going so well, you wouldn't know it from the way senate democrats are behaving. they are starting to roll out an alternativ...

Enough has a lot of principles republicans wanted to begin with. buy insurance across state lines. be a lot less money in terms of of investment but your premiums will be less. whatever you do, don't bring up the fact that harry reid is not going to entertain any of the changes the democrats want to make. >> right. the front end of that answer there, we've seen democrats backing away from obamacare as of late, seeing mid term elections on the horizon. here we have an independent backing so far away that he can't even say it exists. qzuñ is because there'sg his own state. >> senator john barra...