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It was a scandal. >> eric: one more. cops being killed. it >> you're going to blame the president? >> let me jump in here for a second. what i think is a scandal is when there are massive failures and the leader cannot admit that and then we have multiple news cycles where the facts rollout in the leader still cannot admit that. that is a scandal. everything i listed are scandals. >> that's like saying that george bush, since 9/11 happened on george bush's watch is a scandal. that's not a scandal. >> there are failures that he doesn't admit. >> rich, come on.

>> eric: let me throw one more out there. cops being killed. >> you're going to blame the president? >> eric: not putting down the antiblack movement. >> let me jump in here for a second. what i think is a scandal is when there are massive failures and the leader cannot admit that, and then we have multiple news cycles where the facts roll out and the leader still cannot admit that. that is a scandal. >> eric: that's not a scandal. >> everything i listed aree scandals. >> that's like saying that george bush -- because 9/11 happened on george bush's watch that's a scandal. that's not a scandal....

Story about the saudi kid in the hospital being a suspect. absolutely from the jump. went and did that. both of them. the one thing i really like about this given our history over the last couple of decade, this was a police action. there wasn't need for patriot act or warrantless wiretapping or enhanced interrogation techniques. they left the water board in the closet. this was cops being cops. this was grinding forensic work and shoe leather detective work and door-to-door searches and relying on the public and making the public a part of it. >> you can see the public appreciation. we're sho...