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Safety of americans in afghanistan and our standing with muslims around the world, bobby ghosh, editor of "time" and jim zogby president of the arab american institute and author of "arab voices." basically, we have two sets of extremists. extremist in florida and a couple that took advantage of the moment to stir people up in afghanistan. how much is this spread around the muslim world? >> the real concern now is, chuck, it spreads from here. that you have in other small groups of extremists and other parts of the muslim world to feel like they have to do a copycat thing. we saw that many yea...

And try to minimize any casualties. but at least is important are three and four, they want to reassure people, they are well aware of the threat and are doing something about it. and fourth, there's a deterrent factor. what they say is if someone is kind of on the edge, thinking about doing some copycat thing and wants to be part of the glory and carry out an attack like they did in paris and they want to do a copycat thing and the environment may be pushing them toward that, the hope is if they get out there on the street and see this huge police presence, they'll think twice and maybe won't...

Getting new information here. hold on. john, go ahead. okay. just another scare here, pete. not related -- >> this is the pittsburgh marathon. >> the police found something. do you know anything about it, pete? >> just what's been reported that they found some kind of device in a small microwave oven on the sidewalk along the route of the marathon. they detoured the final part of the race. they used a robot to disable it. i must say this sounds like some kind of a copycat thing. >> there you go. that's certainly a concern to a lot of people. absolutely whether they are copycat events or whatev...