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Let's put it into a bit of context. we are so far outside the original design basis of this power plant. i think it's prudent. it's important to know that they created a laundry list of different things that need to be looked at and considered. at the end of the day, we cannot put ourselves in the situation where we stop injecting water. that is the only means of cooling the cores. but more importantly, what it does is it illustrates better than i could have articulated the sense of urgency that tepco needs to take in terms of getting on the long-term method of core cooling, which is the resid...

Does is it illustrates better than i could have articulated the sense of urgency that tepco needs to take in terms of getting on the long-term method of core cooling, which is the residual heat removing system. it's something we need to consider and people need to ask the what if questions. but honestly, other than that, there's really nothing more than can be done. >> you talked about the heat removal system. what do you mean? >> nuclear power plants are designed so when they shut down, we have systems -- it's a two-loop system. it's like the radiator in your car where we circulate water thro...

Of urgency that tepco needs to take in terms of getting on the long-term method of core cooling. it's something we need to consider and people need to ask the what if questions. but honestly, other than that, there's really nothing more than can be done. >> you talked about the heat removal system. what do you mean? >> nuclear power plants are designed so when they shut down, we have systems -- it's a two-loop system. it's like the radiator in your car where we circulate water through the reactor, it picks up the heat and flows through a heat exchanger and that exchanges the heat with another ...

Thing to be doing. >> so what do you think? i mean, is it that they're not creative? or they're just completely fried? i mean, they've been working so much they're kind of not exploring other ideas? that they're not asking for input and help from others? >> you know, it's difficult to say. there's no doubt that everything that you just said is true. and i'm certain -- and there's no doubt, don't get me wrong, by any stretch of the imagination, water and water management is the crisis right now. and they are going to have to figure out how to solve this problem. but you know, quite honestly, un...

That they're not asking for input and help from others? >> you know, it's difficult to say. there's no doubt that everything that you just said is true. and i'm certain -- and there's no doubt, don't get me wrong, by any stretch of the imagination, water and water management is the crisis right now. and they are going to have to figure out how to solve this problem. but you know, quite honestly, until they get the systems put back into service or reconstructed or whatever, this is not a one-off deal. this issue of water and water management is going to plague them until they can get on long-te...