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Performance rise in massachusetts to the top in the country. even competitive with the rest to the best in the world on science. some people say this common core that massachusetts is going to it, it's going to water down massachusetts standards? >> i don't think that. this evidence is contrary to that. massachusetts did have high standards. unfortunately most of our states did not. if massachusetts thought its standards were higher they should have stayed with their standards. they actually did some independent evaluation. they brought in a team of teachers to analyze their standards against ...

Performance rise in massachusetts to the top in the country and even competitive with the rest -- the best in the word on science, for example. some people say, this common core now that massachusetts is going to it, it's actual lea going to water you -- actually going to water down massachusetts standards. >> i don't think that's right. this evidence is contrary to that. let me say massachusetts did have high standards. unfortunately, most of our states did not. if massachusetts thought its standards were higher, they should have stayed with their standards. to me, the higher the standards, t...

References from thomas jefferson. what's your reaction to that? how much do you favor a more standardized curriculum across the nation? >> i do favor a more standardized curriculum. i've been speaking out about that. you know, this notion that every state should do its own thing is a nice notion in terms of federalism but it's antiquated. our kids need to be prepared for a global environment and a global economy. in terms of the kind of rewriting textbooks and things like that, i always think that's unfortunate. a guy whose influence is a guy named e.d. hirsch at the university of virginia who...