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Be legitimate, to be on par with what we take for granted, which is currencies that are from governments? >> well, i think first of all it's going to be a long time before that happens. but what bitcoin needs is what any money in the world needs, and that is confidence of the people using it. the willingness of people to accept it. and that's been one of the great things about this bitcoin experiment is that it's sort of been this reminder that all money is in some ways now digital money. it just exists on ledgers on a computer. and the question of whether it is successful is a question of whe...

It's a very rare situation. now you will have a distress call. you will have the cockpit voice recorder you'll have the flight data recorder. i'm guessing from what you're telling me that pretty short order, there will be information as to what happened and why. >> richard, speaking about this happening mid flight it does lead you to believe that something must have happened structurally or electrically. this plane was 24 years old. give us context in airline years, what is that? >> it's a robust aircraft. the a-320, it is a work horse of european aviation. and what you think you're looking at...

It altered, those are the things that get thrown out of court that can change the results of a court case. >> one of the thing that will be so crucial on what kind of an act this was. a terrorist act. what was it? is going to be was, this truly unintentional, they meant to hit a cargo military plane. or did they not even check to see what they were going to hit? that could be a very, very crucial point. is there anything that would show that on the black box or anything? they tried to figure out whether it was civilian? >> what you would get from a cockpit voice record he, if there had been an...

At if it's going over a way point. i take on board what everybody's saying. i think we come back to this core point of the reliability of these pings. because what they've done here, they've taken these interrogation pings that have appeared on the radar scopes or at least on the map, they've then plotted on top of it the route which it shows the way points and that's how they've come up with this particular scenario. and so we do come back again, yes, it's certainly looking like these gentlemen have said, looking at the facts presented here, there is a deliberate nature to its course if those...

Beyond i think simple financial trouble. >> and the shopping trips. mark halperin, up there in new york. oscar de la renta, louis vuitton. this was no low-rent operation. >> they've got nice stuff here in new york. >> and i know you're an expert on all of these designer labels. >> people should recognize that virginia is the only state where you can only run for one term as governor. mcdonnell was a rising star in the party. came in, and in this one term, i think his family saw, as eugene suggested, the limits of their finances and the circles they were operating in. they clearly wanted a life...