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There's going to be a lot of small steps but we will want to pay attention to each step just the see how it is progressing. >> and i didn't play raffensperger's response, but raffensperger makes the points that you make, nick, that there were three audits/recounts in the state and there was no systematic or widespread fraud found, and those audits were credible and thorough and accepted by democrats and republicans in the state. so my question is what are they looking for? >> well, it is an open question. i mean they're apparently going to investigate everything from the actual credible issues...

Pursuing audits, when there is fraud, it's caught pretty quick. new york board of elections caught it in hours. the arizona audit has been going on for 68 days. what are they doing? they would have known by now if something was amiss. at the end of the day, it c it down to the core by which we elect our leaders. it's precisely the fight that republicans are so dead set against, it's why it's so central to what this moment is for the democratic party and for our democracy as a whole. congressman clyburn, a democrat from south carolina, is the house majority whip. the senate needs to get rid of ...

The service of this country and most recently in ukraine. so it's sort of a mixed message coming from the white house and yet the lady who's on the front lines doing that in ukraine, they call her back. >> it's the core question coming out of today. with all these hours we just watched of testimony, the core question is what you said. why did you fire her in this woman was said to be a champion of anticorruption by democrats, republicans, the foreign policy establishment. why was she fired if your focus was on corruption and you didn't bring it up in either of the phone calls? so it goes to th...

Her public service, minimizing what she did as our representative in somalia, a dangerous place where her life obviously was in danger. shame on this president. shame on him for doing that. >> let me ask you a question because we've heard two different things from chairman schiff. who said that he thinks that yovanovitch was fired because she was getting in the way of president trump's shadow foreign policy, trying to get the president of ukraine to publicly announce investigations into the bidens, but we just had your colleague on and she said she thinks it might have to do with giuliani's tw...

From her job and yes, the president has a right to appoint and remove ambassadors at his will, but lots of this was done for personal gain. the president can do a lot of things, but he b can't use american foreign policy for his own personal or political gain and that's i think the theme of all this. of course happening as roger stone gets convict ed as a whol circle of moment. >> go ahead. >> the way the congressman asked that question of the witness was such a cheap lawyer's tactic. not her job to have evidence she's not the prosecutor. she's part of the evidence. it's up to ultimately congr...