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The state department. secretary of state pompeo in condoning or directing this irregular panel that sondland and giuliani were involved in. as the acting assistant secretary he would have had a direct line to secretary pompeo and the white house and would have been coordinating with them. >> sam, why do you think so many diplomats have gone to testify willingly despite the white house or the state department urging against it? >> as i mentioned, i think it's because in the first instance they respect the constitution and our system of checks and balances even if the secretary of state and the ...

To whatever the impulsivity of the president is. and it's our opportunity to show that. and, yet, i don't know. that will be to me that will be the turning point, chuck. that's where we'll have hit a different phase in this relationship between the president and his party. >> there was a great blind quote joshua johnson from a trump supporting republican senator that talked about it sort of beach erosion. and all of the mattis resignation and all of this stuff and erodes more beach and erodes more beach and this is before the mueller tidal wave hits. and when mueller hits, how much beach is le...

We're going to push back on syria. we're have the purse strings. we have power. we don't have to be held hostage to whatever the impulsivity of the president is. and it's our opportunity to show that. and, yet, i don't know. that will be to me that will be the turning point, chuck. that's where we'll have hit a different phase in this relationship between the president and his party. >> there was a great blind quote from a trump supporting republican senator that talked about it sort of beach erosion. and all of the mattis resignation and all of this stuff and erodes more beach and erodes more...

>> the first meeting in particular i was concerned that i needed a record to show the other intelligence agency chiefs who had been with me but didn't stay behind for the second private meeting and i also was worried that i was meeting alone with the president to talk about things that were relating to him and to the fbi's core responsibilities, and given the nature of the person, as i understood the president-elect, he might not tell the truth about those if it ever became an issue so i needed a written record. >> is this the sort of thing that fbi officials and special agents and people thro...