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The same thing is happening at the state level where you see state and local officials who stood up to donald trump and certified the election are now targets either facing primary challenges or even threats. there's no guarantee the party won't be made more in trump's image and more around the big lie in 2024. our system is not set up well to deal with this when one party is abandoning core tenets like who gets the most votes wins the election. once that breaks down, pretty much anything is on the table. >> you're right. that's the thing that keeps election officials up at night, an overturne...

That's a ban on trans for being their most authentic -- being the most effective fighting force is being authentic. the people next to you, you can trust them that they trust you and when it comes down to it, they are going to rely back on their training. but some of our core tenets are integrity first. if we can't even be honest about who we are, one of our core tenets of service is compromised. >> one of the things that's been brought up by folks who would support this ban is what it means to the u.s. as a strong fighting force. did you get any sense when you were in the military that the pe...