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Our concern with the senate is they have a budget bill that never balances. it doesn't balance in ten years, not 50 years, not 100 years. so how could you find agreement with someone who goes i will never balance the budget. i won't tell america how much i want to spend and how much i want to raise your taxes. we're willing to say this is tough stuff but we'll put a budget out that balances and shows the american people how we do it. it's pretty hard when you're that far apart and they won't even concede the point that we want to balance the budget. that's been our issue. right now we all want...

Week or so are really going to be figuring out how they can eat. >> yeah. where the next meal is coming from. corey, "the new york times" has highlighted 20 hard-core conservatives who are not going to back down on this. how is that small group of republicans able to hold government funding hostage? again, this is the minority of the majority minority out of two-thirds in washington, d.c. did you do my math there? okay. >> the math also, it's actually a wider pool. you're talking about roughly as many as 85 lawmakers in the house. they're either tea party -- tea party loyalists or they're gerr...

These appropriations bills that are kick the can down the road style. we haven't had any appropriations bills this year. but is piecemeal the way we need to govern? >> well, no. it muddles the republican message. they forced the shutdown. they said it was more important to defund or delay obama care than have the government be open and now they're complaining that the government is not open. it doesn't make any sense. duffy is on here trying to claim we're the ones compromising. what was the concession that came out of the republicans' mouth? there was none. they're changing their demands. the...

Hispanic media not ask him about the topic? victoria is a professor at the university of texas and msnbc contributor, corey dade is a contributing editor for "the root." and also with me is the editor of political wire. thank you for being here. i appreciate it. corey, let's start with you. in the wake of the zimmerman verdict, president obama issued a statement which really could be described as a consolation and call for calm. he didn't address the issue of race. as the nation's first black president, should he speak more to the racial divisions caused by this case? >> well, the president is...

Republican with h republican women come to the forefront p.m. i'm accuser to see -- i'm curious to see if she is able to galvanize the pink elephants and she is not new to this. we saw in 2004 and in 2000 with her father's campaign, she headed up the "w" stands for women movement within the bush campaign. i'm very curious to see what she did going forward and what republican and conservative women do going forward with her election. >> corey, let's listen to what senator enzi had to say about this new development when asked about it by reporters. >> west she sashe said if i ran going to run so...