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Point, simpson's testimony there is inaccurate, the fbi did not have a source inside the trump campaign. it's just they had heard something similar from the australian diplomat. >> that's right. >> about somebody inside the trump campaign. >> that's right. you could say second hand information from somebody inside the trump organization. >> simpson's argument is all of this about steele coming forward, et cetera, contradicts president trump and his supporters who argue that the dossier was a purely political document paid for by democrats trying to hurt trump. >> that's right. on a couple of d...

So they're watching him. >> well, the problem was they did not have any other corroborating information to identify him as a threat. what has to be determined is, was information on shahzad put into the terrorism databases and was there any other corroborating information that they missed? >> we can put things together. they went to the trouble of checking him out on making a condo sale but didn't notice he went over there for five months to get training in terrorism? >> they went to pakistan, but they didn't know -- >> connect the dots. checking him out before and then they saw he went for te...

Pakistanis killed in terrorist attacks by al qaeda and their associates. we recognize that they mean as much danger to the pakistanis as they do to us. so we're going to continue to deepen that cooperation, we're going to make clear to them that these enemies, which are their enemies, are our enemies too. >> so is 53 hours from the time this happened to the time we picked the guy up, right? >> that's correct. >> okay, thank you very much, dennis mcdonough of the national security council. >> appreciate it, chris. well joining us now is an nbc news terrorism analyst. well, that was dennis mcd...

Was information on shahzad put into the terrorism databases and was there any other corroborating information that they missed. >> piece things together, went through the trouble of checking out in making a condo sale but didn't notice he went over there, for what, five months to get training in terrorism. >> went back to pakistan but didn't know what he was -- >> connect the dots. checking him out before and then they saw he went for terrorist training. >> so the question is -- >> one dot would be enough i think. >> sometimes that's true. the question is, did the fbi know that there was a lin...