MSNBC Hardball With Chris Matthews November 16, 2019 00:12:00
>> chris, here's the point. if the president is speaking so loud effectively he's on a speakerphone for anyone to hear in ukraine the national security concern is that others including the russians could be listening. we might think of this as careless or negligent by the president. but think for a moment, maybe the president wanted the russians to hear. maybe he was fine with the russians hearing him because of course this as described today in the hearing with ambassador yovanovitch was part of a russian effort, a russian originated effort to delegitimize ukraine, to smear those who were sta...