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Is that right? >> i think that's about right, nicole. he definitely delivered the corruption message when he met with president zelensky in early september which was a period when the aid was being held up and before it was released. you know, look, the argument that my reporter colleagues heard from the white house was that the vice president was unaware of the request to biden about biden. i don't know if that's actually true. it doesn't quite add up for a couple of reasons. one is that the vice president's national security adviser keith kellogg listened in on that call that trump had with ...

Know, democrats won last campaign by breaking the rules. he did it in the democratic primary and he did it in the general. the things we thought were unacceptable all of a sudden became acceptable in the campaign. democrats are sort of tired of playing nice. her folk with us on changing the rules was a good message. >> what we just witnessed, how does this allow her to distinguish herself? >> i agree with hilary. i thought the focus on the corruption message was a good one because i think it's probably the one issue that every democrat has agreed on. this is an administration that has the cont...

Candidates what matters to them. take a look. >> what's your top issue in the midterm elections? >> healthcare. >> corruption. health care's another really big one. >> health care is huge. i mean, that's huge. >> the top of mind issue is health care. >> what's the issue that's top of mind for you? >> well, the immigration for one thing. >> i think right now, that's the hot button is immigration. >> immigration. >> government accountability. >> immigration or health care? >> overwhelmingly it's health care. >> you saw that a little bit of a split between, i want to -- we didn't tell the viewers...

And candidates what matters to them. take a look. what's your top issue in the midterm elections? >> health care coverage. >> corruption. health care is another big one. >> health care is huge. that's huge. >> the top issue is health care. >> what's the issue top of mind for you? >> well, the immigration for one thing. >> i think right now that's the hot-button is immigration. >> immigration. >> government accountability. >> is it immigration or health care? >> i think overwhelmingly, it's health care. >> so you saw there a little bit of a split between -- i want to -- we didn't tell our viewe...

>> government accountability. >> is it immigration or health care? >> i think overwhelmingly, it's health care. >> so you saw there a little bit of a split between -- i want to -- we didn't tell our viewers who or which party any of those voters came from, but i have to say that even among republicans, and you saw republican candidate there david young of iowa. when i asked him the top issue, he did not say immigration, which, if you listen to the president, you might expect a republican candidate to say. instead he pivoted away and said government accountability. that said perhaps the corrupt...