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Could get away with clubbing every journalist around until they left. even more extraordinary was it worked. i think most journalists feared there was more coming, and then there was an oddly calm day. fareed, let me ask you, in simp terms, what is your gut feeling about what is actually happening now? >> i think what's happening now, it's fascinating, the egyptian military, it's a military dictatorship in civilian garb, have decided they'll sacrifice mubarak, but they're going to outwait the protesters, outlast them. at the end of the day people have to get back to work, they have to make a l...

Journalist around until they left. even more extraordinary was it worked. i think most journalists feared there was more coming, and then there was an oddly calm day. where not much happened in the end. fareed, let me ask you, in simp terms, what is your gut feeling about what is actually happening now? >> i think what's happening now, it's fascinating, the egyptian military, which runs the country. no, this is a military dictatorship in civilian garb, have decided they're going to sacrifice mubarak, in the next few months he's going to go. but they're going to outwait protesters, outlast them...

Knowing what's going to happen? >> nobody knows. >> you don't even know? >> i don't even know. as you can see, mubarak is keeping mums the word. nobody knows what he's thinking, why is he staying? as i mentioned yesterday, he now for the sake of the country should just go. and nobody knows what is -- what the new government is going to look like. people are not accepting, just shuffling of people, because it's -- the demand for change is quite different from what -- you know, cosmetic changes. they need a drastic shift. >> the secretary called for a transition to democracy which they've been c...

>> nobody knows. i mean, that is also -- >> you don't even know? >> i don't even know. as you can see, mubarak is keeping mums the word. nobody knows what he's thinking, why is he staying? as i mentioned yesterday, he now for the sake of the country should just go. and nobody knows what is -- what the new government is going to look like. people are not accepting, just shuffling of people, because it's -- the demand for change is quite different from what -- you know, cosmetic changes. they need a drastic shift. >> the secretary called for a transition to democracy which they've been calling f...

In some corners of the u.s. one, if democracy were to come here, they might automatically be hostile. that's not true at all. you know, we -- peace between democracies is much more durable than peace between dictators. >> how controlled are things right now, in terms of every day knowing what's going to happen? >> nobody knows. i mean, that is also -- >> you don't even know? >> i don't even know. as you can see, mubarak is keeping mums the word. nobody knows what he's thinking, why is he staying? as i mentioned yesterday, he now for the sake of the country should just go. and nobody knows what...