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Sterilizations of thousands and thousands of people. it's not just the cost. i don't politically if the cost argument will really change people's minds that oh, you have a double taxation in this country for corporations and individuals for medicare for all. you're allowing politicians, big and small, to make decisions about what doctors you get to go to, what drugs are going to get covered. you know what? if you're stage 4 lung cancer, how long do you get to live and do you get the six-figure drug. >> no way. >> that's what we're talking about. >> i have a few second so i think it's important...

>> you mentioned the money aspect of this. do we know what is at the core of all of this? and how lambda legal or any group could argue against it? what is their best defense? because on the surface it seem like it's discriminatory. >> absolutely. i think the main thrust of the argument would be that this is in violation of equal protection, that this is simply motivated against a particular group and they would point to the fact that unthe policy would be implemented so far reachingly across the board if these tweets actually go into effect as they have been written. there is also been a cost...

You don't even know what it was. that was the advocates for legalization in colorado that it was a two-pronged message. they will tell you that the money argue am in the context of what we could use the money for in a state that doesn't well fund the schools, but coupled with that was the idea that if alcohol is legal, so should marijuana be legal. why would a more unsafe drug not be. they will tell you and what came out is you have to couple a cost argument and a financial cost with something else. people in america have shown a pension for being willing to spend and overspend on things that ...

Instead, we're cutting the budgets and not learning the lessons and we're not committed. megyn: the challenger happened in '86. columbia, '03. there's the argument that it's too dangerous and too expensive and we cannot throw billions at a program to have this loss of life and loss of money. your thoughts in response to that? >> well, megyn, first of all, when people use the cost argument, you have to put it in perspective. sure, it's expensive and lives are precious. people like myselves and others take the risk because it's worth the reward. one of the biggest legacies of apollo is that it m...

Bother it because we're using so much energy during the day and that's right when we're producing so flaerj we don't have to worry about storage. once we start getting above 10% levels then we need to start thinking about storage. by then energy storage technologies will have caught up. to give you and example they say storage is an issue for within as well. our state of colorado is 15% wind powered. in denmark they are 25% wind powered and don't need storage. storage is an issue for the future but shouldn't take us from taking aggressive action. >> the colorado governor has signed 60 pieces o...