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Medicare have been misrepresented in order to scare voters. what's your response to that? >> i think his plan scared voters before i even was on the scene. the idea of breaking the promise that we made to our seniors over 45 years ago, doesn't sit well with people. people paid into this program since their high school job. it's not a charity program. i understand the need to get the underlying cost driving health care up under control. that does not mean you touch the beneficiaries. you go after the underlying cost of health care. that's another whole topic. i have some ideas as well as do tho...

What's your response to that? >> i think his plan scared voters before i even was on the scene. the idea of breaking the promise that we made to our seniors over 45 years ago, doesn't sit well with people. people paid into this program since their high school job. it's not a charity program. i understand the need to get the underlying cost driving health care up under control. that does not mean you touch the beneficiaries. you go after the underlying cost of health care. that's another whole topic. i have some ideas as well as do thoughtful people in washington. the bottom line is i think the...