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States more flexibility. . when i say that, right now under the house plan, you still have to ask for waivers. we still have to go the federal government. let's give that flexibility to the states up front. we can do it on a healthy population covered by medicaid in terms of block grant. that's let is have a true work requirement if the states want to do that. most importantly we have trouble with, like in arkansas, we're trying to reduce the expanded population by 60,000. and if you do that, where do they go? right now they can go on the exchange and get a subsidy and do some cost sharing, bu...

Consistently said we're not just going to hit that benchmark. we're going to improve upon it. as they come out with plans that increase the cost sharing, increase the burden, that's not improving the baseline. that's cutting it. >> the republicans in the house are trying to push this bill about medicaid and every word they said about medicaid was as if it was this dysfunctional program that didn't work for anyone. some republican senators who are opposing this bill are opposing it in defense of medicaid and that's when you see a collision that is not solvable. >> yeah, that's a really importan...

As they come out with plans that increase the cost sharing, income t increase the burden, that's not improving the baseline. that's cutting it. >> the republicans in the house are trying to push this bill about medicaid and every word they said about medicaid was as if it was this dysfunctional program that didn't work for anyone. some republican senators who are opposing this bill are opposing it in defense of medicaid and that's when you see a collision that is not solvable. >> yeah, that's a really important and pretty fascinating point. there's something like 20 republican senators who com...

Screenings, aneurysm screenings. this list goes on and on. health and human services decides what's on that list. they could change that easy and that will put the burden on patients. if the burden is on them, they can't afford it. the list goes on and on with the different things that -- >> cost sharing you have on there, which is about how much i pay versus how much the government pays? >> exactly. cost sharing means right now with preventive services, they're free under the affordable care act, but if they take those off, cost sharing will be with the patients. the mandate itself, the manda...

>> as you know, true leadership means going against the tide sometimes. all right. now we have allen that lally. you probably don't know him he is the ceo of ford. here is why he deserves to be on the list. >> yeah. >> when the recession kicked in, he and ford did not ask for any bailout money. >> yep. >> all right. they did it on their own. and now they are the most prosperous american car maker, correct? >> he deserves to be on that list. he has turned the culture of ford around this year all a the $46,800 cost sharing benefit because of the profits of ford over $8 billion in profits. >> thi...