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But trials have referees. and in this case, the judge ruled that neither one of those defense experts could testify about tampering. one, said the judge, wasn't sufficiently qualified. the other was brought in too late in the trial. but even if they had testified, there was one question they couldn't answer. if there was a hacker, who was it? >> i can tell you that police had access to it. i can tell you that anybody within wireless range had access to it. >> what possible reason would the police have to put that map on his computer? >> i can't say that the police put it on the computer. i don...

Who did. two of them. both of whom wrote reports. but trials have referees. and in this case, the judge ruled that neither one of those defense experts could testify about tampering. one, said the judge, wasn't sufficiently qualified. the other was brought in too late in the trial. but even if they had testified, there was one question they couldn't answer. if it was a hacker, who was it? >> i can tell you that police had access to it. i can tell you that anybody within wireless range had access to it. >> what possible reason would the police have to put that map on his computer? >> i can't sa...

And in this case, the judge ruled that neither one of those defense experts could testify about tampering. one, said the judge, wasn't sufficiently qualified. the other was brought in too late in the trial. qualified an other was brought in too late in the trial. if they had testified, was one question they couldn't answer, if there was a hacker, who was it? >> i can tell you that police had access to it. i can tell you that anybody within hiwireless range had access. >> what possible reason would the police have to put that map on his compute sner. >> i can't say that the police put it onkcom...

They also started with an eye toward attempting to preserve nancy's reputation. and that phone would carry e-mails, text messages, pictures, videos. >> and you think it would have been exculpatory evidence for your client? >> i don't know what it was because we never did get to get in that phone. >> and that call saturday morning from brad's house to his cell phone? the one the prosecution alleges brad made himself with that now missing router? they claim that he checked out a router and never returned it. >> the question is, did he generate a phone call not did he have the technological skill...

Joining us is white house correspondent for bloomberg news. nice to have you with us tonight. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> this story confounds me. it's confounded me from the very first inkling we got from members of the administration and campaign would need provide legal counsel. without getting into the -- all the back and forth detail that i just ran through in the new reporting, do you understand basically what is going on in terms of paying for legal fees in this investigation? is there some method to the madness here? >> i understand what is going on at the moment but i t...