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Complete audit of those numbers is done daily and can be overseen by the administration, congress, and the courts. so this change would put it in the telephone companies. is that a distinction without a difference operation wise? >> actually, the telephone companies already have the data. it's their data. they supply that to us. so rather than us taking all the data, all we're going to get is that data that directly links to a terrorist number. now, there are some things we have to work our way through to insure we have the agility and crisis, but i think all of that is doable. so this is an a...

We have to maintain in order to secure the nation. >> there is this perception, general, maybe amplified by the national media, that the nsa listens to all phone calls and reads all e-mails. >> i would get more respect if we could do all that. if you think about all the data that is out there, it's wrong. we don't do it. >> not even close? >> not even close. >> you have the stuff coming in. bringing it all in, like a giant hoover, right? >> 215 is call detail records that has a number to and from, the duration of the call and the date time. it's just numbers. we don't know whose number it is. ...

With the telecommunications company on specific numbers that have a terrorist nexus and get only that data. >> 215, just to be clear, is the mass collection of numbers. >> that's correct. >> and you tap into that database as of now, a collection that you hold here? >> right, in fact, you bring out a good point because this is not widely understood. we get a few billion call detail records a day. and we're authorized to search on only a few hundred numbers that have been met a reasonable articiable suspicion standard. there are constraints on theidathe database applied by the court, overseen by...

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