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Nate and josh were picking their way up a rocky path. double d didn't like it. the he tried to done and go home. in his thrashing slipped and stumbled. >> i couldn't get kicked out of the stirrups fast enough. he went over and smashed my ankle and tore up his front leg also. >> josh sprained his ankle. but give up? go home? no. way too tough for that. >> even though you're crazy and your horse is injured, why? >> had to see what's on the other side. >> didn't ride all that way for nothing. >> so they pushed on. about 300 yards to the top, mile the and miles of vast isolation around them. in an...

Strategy. and so, having a compliant justice department was at the root of the watergate scandal. and so, to here, getting jeff sessions to stay in charge, jeff sessions, a supporter of the president, would have compromised the integrity of the investigation when everybody at the justice department told the attorney general, the career professionals told him he had to recuse himself. >> midwin, what do you make of jeff sessions' position in this administration right now? he's still called out by the president from time to time. on twitter, there's reporting about pressure exerted upon him many...

I mean, when you look at ken starr and when he started investigating clinton and whitewater and ended up with monica lewinsky. that took four years. so i hate to break it to president trump as well as those who support him, that you know, mueller can go at this for quite some time. >> michael, i'll have you weigh in on that. i want to see when you've heard the same change in rhetoric and ask what that means or says to you about where we are in this particular investigation. >> well, we're at the beginning of the investigation. special counsel mueller has a lot to look into. it was 26 months fr...

Came out. look, the problem steve bannon has is it's not about the apology. in the apology, he doesn't deny the comments that are in the book, and he certainly doesn't apologize for enabling the author to have the access he had in the white house to senior staff, and perhaps even to the president himself. that remains the fundamental problem that steve bannon has. this book remains a problem for this white house. it's still getting a lot of attention and is still the best-seller. that's steve bannon's fault as much as anybody else. >> the president continues to only gauge with the book and wha...

Members could take action against the president here. i guess the question it begs is where do we go from here, in light of what you've learned from the book? what's the conversation likely going forward among administration officials? >> i think among administration officials, there will be two things. one, how do we not talk to the press anymore and become a less closed place, because michael wolff has been essentially allowed to roam around all week. and he has a passage where he says no one could really open the door for me, but nobody could close it for me. basically, they were not able t...