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They're good on numbers of dollars but when they have to guess how people would react to it that's a very difficult thing to do. so let's look at what they say about dollars. premiums will go down 10% and save more than $800 billion in taxes and you're seeing small business confidence rise today and you'll lower the deficit by $300 billion. that's without looking at phase two and phase three. look, yes, we repeal the individual mandate so are people having insurance right now because they're forced to and don't want to have it? yes. can we sustain the current projection no because the exchange...

Response obamacare. some are predicting a bigger bloodbath of the chaos and dire predictions of loft coverage for millions. we have a fox news contributor karl rove. good morning. good to have you no blizzard in texas. >> should i turn on the pool or spa? >> shannon: and bill wants to know if you have a drink ready. we've had members the freedom caucus and we want to give you a chance to respond. >> if he wants to bring out his white board and debate it i welcome that. if karl rove wants to look at tom price's health care he needs to look at section 2 and 3 i

So the president is talking about making cuts and the secret is people don't want to save because they'll get less in their budget and people don't quantity to crackdown -- don't want to crackdown. >> the president is a businessman and when a new ceo takes over a common it's common to turn to departments and say instantly i want you to cut 10%. manager know this and know where the waste is and has been and not that they're bad people and didn't want to cut it before but like you said if you give up room in your budget you don't get that back. so he's saying i'm forcing everyone to cut 10%. the...

Hit the legislation tab and you'll see he endorsed a bill that called for refundable tax credit. >> shannon: you've given folks a lot of homework. is that one white board with two sides -- >> i have another one for a different subject. >> shannon: before we get to that you know there's objections from the right saying it's a new entitlement with tax breaks for people then on the left though they're pointing to the cbo score saying 24 million people will be left would coverage. it's critical they get the 51 votes in the senate. we have folks like senator tom cotton cautioning the house saying d...

Tais really quite simple.est it comes in the mail, you pull out the tube and you spit in it, which is something southern girls are taught you're not supposed to do. you seal it and send it back and then you wait for your results. it's that simple.