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Gregory. the president could kill somebody, can't possibly be on instruct justice and sell pardon without going blind. are this on full legal footing here? >> well, first of all, i have to say i think rudy guiliani's statement is really reckless, is really irresponsible to put out into the public sphere. but the arguments they're making have to be looked through the lens of they are making these publicly. and the memo that was drafted was drafted many months ago. these were arguments made to special counsel's office many months ago. they obviously haven't maude de progress since that time. in ...

Nixon was forced from office because he was going to be impeached from office because of watergate. in 1998, bill clinton was impeached due to the monica lewinsky investigation. it is not only wrong by historical framer standards but congresses in our lifetime have recognized presidents can obstruct justice. >> they are distracting it by making the argument about indictments or not. that is not the issue here. >> mueller has more or less indicated that he would be bound by policy which currently says sitting presidents cannot be indicted. so there is no real possibility, i think, that there is...