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>> in 2006? >> in 2006. through poison pills. republicans have killed deals. if we don't get daca fixed, the blame goes to democrats, the blame goes to republicans, and the blame goes to the president. >> democrats want to have a deal right now. the reality is -- >> we've heard that before. >> if donald trump supported lindsey graham's bill with durbin, it would pass the house. >> it would. >> it is outrageous to say he couldn't pass -- >> it would -- >> that's overwhelming bipartisan support -- >> i understand. you were saying, let's not talk about his words, which you have said, you found it...

He didn't want it. what he wants -- >> -- would not have tapassed t house -- >> hole on one second -- >> -- immigrants here -- >> let's hold on for one second. secretary? >> jake, look back at the history of immigration reform. i was very involved in 2006. and i'll tell you this, i think the democrats killed that deal. >> in 2006? >> in 2006. through poison pills. republicans have killed deals. if we don't get daca fixed, the blame goes to democrats, the blame goes to republicans, and the blame goes to the president. >> democrats want to have a deal right now. the reality is -- >> we've heard ...

People all over the state of tennessee saying i want the exchange can afford the premiuming because i'm getting help but can't afford the deductibles and therefore can't begin to use my insurance. you got to take it more than talking about the isolated csrs. it's more than that. as long as you keep the mandates there and people can't get what they want for a cost they can afford i think you're going to continue to have this problem. >> i guess -- i feel like, though, we're in a cul-de-sac in health care. the president wants a new plan. the senate has proven it can't. you guys passed a plan tha...

Totalitarian idea. to undermine truth. >> this goes to what might be different. >> yeah. >> you do an interesting job showing the roots of this, which is maybe why it took hold. you said trump was elected president because of his nonstop lies. the old fringes have been folded into the new center. the irrational has become respectable and often unstoppable. that seems to be an important point, that in the old days, leaders and politicians sought to be credible. >> correct. >> and may have lied when convenient. now trump seeks to make the factual part of the world not credible. >> exactly right....

May be facing another health care got punched with potential rate hikes as high as 20%. >> we are going to the continued continued in copayments and deductibles. >> the republican congress is in no mood to revisit a repeal and replace billet couldn't pass after seven years of promises. there's one nugget of hope. a bill cosponsored by chairman lamar alexander and patty murra murray. it would provide stability to the market. >> your house is on fire, you want to put out the fire. the fire in this case is the individual health insurance market. speak with the bill has some appeal to republicans ...