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Selection process, i'd have a disproportionate number of folks claiming to be jehovah's witnesses who couldn't serve. respond to the disproportionateness if there one? >> people are using an excuse. i don't want a vaccine because of my political views i don't want somebody jabbing me in the arm but we need to remember by not getting the vaccine, we're putting others in danger. we have thousands of americans every day dying of covid. and we can stop this pandemic getting everyone vaccinated and i think religious exemption, a major problem in getting that done. >> aensome to that, pun intended. ...

Steve: so it's not a legal thing he is answering. it's a political problem he is posing for his father? >> precisely. precisely. did they want rudy giuliani and the president to expose this? of course not. did they think that he would be the target of the president's personal like this. i can't imagine. steve: that's all political. >> correct. correct. brian: we also know that new yorker magazine did an extensive article went up like 5,000 pages about a month ago where he continued about his continuing battle with substance abuse up until very, very recently the reason he was kicked out of the...

Second. what the "times" is reporting tonight is that in june, the month after robert mueller was appointed special counsel, the president, maybe the president alone, we don't know if he received advice or encouragement but he came up with an argument, a three-part argument that robert mueller had personal conflicts that meant he could not be special counsel and continue to serve in the role and there was a dispute over fees at the trump national golf club when he was a member and fbi director in virginia years ago, that he had been associated with the law firm wilmer hail that once represente...

Conflicts that meant he could not be special counsel and continue to serve in the role and there was a dispute over fees at the trump national golf club when he was a member and fbi director in virginia years ago, that he had been associated with the law firm wilmer hail that once represented jared kushner and interviewed to possibly return as fbi director in the trump administration. none of those seem like terrible, personal conflicts that would be seen by, you know, ethics folks at the justice department as a reason somebody couldn't serve as special counsel. those would be things that the ...

That will be picked up in the press tonight but what a strange event. seeing him with david baasy seeing him with david bannon and chris christie who has his own problems and certainly rudy giuliani who said some strange things, who said things about life on this plan threat. hillary clinton had a health problem, couldn't serve as president. she's going to jail. i mean, think about the commitments he made about jailing hillary clinton if he gets elected. you heard none of that tonight in his victory speech. let's hope that's a good sign. brian? >> nicole wallace? >> reporter: rachel gave me a ...