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About that from an expert regarding dna? swab from the pistol grip matches the defendant and trayvon martin is excluded. that's inconsistent with what the defendant claimed. he told the police he was going for the gun. he told the officer he had the gun or grabbed the -- i think he described what part of the gun he grabbed. and then there's other test results, another determination made on the other side. in the holster. you had also fingernail scrapings of the victim in this case. what were the findings? no dna foreign to trayvon martin, no dna results at all. so the victim in the struggle th...

But in this kind of case, as you point out, at a bedside and given the nature of the crime here, it's pretty extraordinary. >> well, it's extraordinary for a couple of reasons, just because of the magnitude of the crime, but also we didn't know when he would be in condition to be arraigned. we had heard various things that he was intubated, couldn't speak, in and out of consciousness, and the judge, the only important finding the judge made in this hearing was that he is, in fact, lucid. he is, in fact, able to understand the charges against him, so that the legal proceedings can begin. the le...

Decided to donate her organs and -- because of her spirit. and it was all about giving and life. she was such a -- that's the way she was. she didn't have any enemies. never anything bad to say about anyone. >> gretchen: warren, i know that you believed that maybe it was a sign that she was giving to you that maybe she couldn't speak, but that somehow a message was coming through to you as her parent that this is something that she would want to do? >> yeah. she was always a giving person and even in the end, she gave of herself and i'm glad some of the recipients, i'm glad that four of them a...