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Issue before congress which is getting rid of balm. ma ca obamacare and trillion dollars in obamacare taxes, more than a trillion dollars in spending and reforming the system. >> if you talk to moderates and people who are, you know -- they will tell you 17% approval rating for something, it doesn't do any of them any good, john. do you think the tweets are a negotiating tactic? you think they'll work? >> look, grover, great spin, lousy bill. nobody trusted paul ryan. down a path that couldn't work. ivanka trump and jared kushner, two key advisers, told him it was a bad strategy going in. he d...

Rating for something, it doesn't do any of them any good, john. do you think the tweets are a negotiating tactic? you think they'll work? >> look, grover, great spin, lousy bill. nobody trusted paul ryan. down a path that couldn't work. ivanka trump and jared kushner, two key advisers, told him it was a bad strategy going in. he didn't pay attention to them. he got burned. now, this tweet on the freedom caucus, this is a negotiating tactic. what he realized in this whole negotiation is that he can deal with the moderates one-on-one. the freedom group, 25 of them vote in a bloc. so he's got to ...

Seven years to get that done and we missed it. >> but vindicated from what? >> from people who thought that the challenges dealing with this small group of recalcitrant members were unique to john boehner. they were not. this is an institutional group of people. >> what do you do if you are paul ryan? >> well, thii think paul ryan a the president have to work together to figure out how to get the members together or work with democrats. >> it sounds like he's on the ladder. >> i think we are probably on firmer ground likely to get the conservative public policy wins we want by figuring out a w...

The world. >> the building is a tremendous smash. everybody wants to see it. >> and see donald trump. >> donald. donald. it's trump. donald. people rushed to him to touch him, to touch his shoulder, to touch his arm. >> it was the biggest bet of his career. >> he was the magic man. anything he touched turned to gold. so even with the marvin roffmans of the world projecting that this couldn't work, there were very many people who believed that it would. and donald trump kept assuring everybody, don't worry about it, you got nothing to worry about. coming up, trump nearly loses it all. how clo...

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