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Winning ab election. not by subverting the results of the vote. a response from trump's team could come down at any minute now. that's where we start today with former deputy assistant attorney general and former u.s. attorney harry litman, plus lead investigator for the january 6th select committee tim haity is here and with me at the table director of the public policy program at hunter college basil smikle. it seems that trump claiming to be president is a get out of a jail free card for crimes committed while one is in office. what is the special counsel saying? >> the special counsel is s...

I wonder what you make of this argument. this is about the health of democracy. >> i think tim's point is well taken. not everything you do as president is about carrying out the official act of the presidency. it's clear to so many of us that so much of what donald trump was doing is trying to further his hold on power. i'm on the trusty of the roosevelt presidential library. i remember some months ago, a number of the libraries calm together to talk about the importance of our democracy in this moment in secuing our freedoms. essentially, it says the history of our country and the presidency...