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Disinfectant. when it comes to classified documents, when it comes to the inner workings of counter intelligence operations and how the fbi investigates folks, especially when some things are still ongoing, this is extremely troubling. and i have to make the distinction between congressional oversight and congressional retaliation and retribution. and that's what troubles me the most, is the understanding that operations might be changed, might not ever be entered into in the first place because of concern that eventually someone on the hill is going to ask for this technique, this method, thi...

We have got counter intelligence operations. but you are on the ground. sheriffs like yourself, the law enforcement community in this country are responsible for the people in their communities. let's bring that as expected into it fjt what we can do when isis goes into ungoverned spaces. when they inspire someone on the sweater or someone takes up that flag such as it is. >> there has to be effective counter tragedy to their recutement. before i get too far into that it's been incredible the progress made with isis. we went from a president in obama calling them the jay vee of terror organiza...

I can't -- it can't be denied either that a lot of the challenges that he is facing right now are self-inflicted. so maybe if he starts to pay attention to the briefings that will change. >> frank, i'll let you have the last word because i want the bottom line for you. when it comes to jared kushner's role inside the administration, based on what you know and what's been reported there, do you have confidence he is the best person to be two offices down from the president in the oval? >> a lot of concern about that. when this thing -- if -- when i was running counter intelligence operations, i...

Alone, they are sort of mel laze. they will want to have a plan for counter intelligence operations, which is something that the secretary again has highlighted with the new intelligence unit they opened. >> but, again, of the 28 member countries of nato that actually meet -- of the 28 members, only five have actually met that 2% of total threshold. i have heard some republicans say this was a risky bet that the president made using language like this. but it's working. and more and more are committing to paying more into nato. grant it, some of that started before the president. but is this a...

Down like he did can toll hill? >> what nunes told us this afternoon, this incidental collection took place but it was completely unrelated as far as he can tell to the investigation of russian interference in the presidential election. so this was collected through some other sort of counter intelligence operations. >> neil: you just followed up my last question, was i don't know who to believe. alternate agencies alternate eves dropping, alternate ways of getting information are not being shared with the very folks that supposedly would be on the same page. so to donald trump's point, they h...