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That they have an advantage, they placed their artillery, their rockets in that area, ukraine cannot shoot back. so it gives them a certain level of invulnerability and they're willing to take the risk that some misfiring on their part can set off that nuclear catastrophe which you describe in the report. >> and what do you think russia should do? i mean, it seems like this is an unnecessary risk. >> it does mean that the russian soldiers there who are firing that artillery are safe from ukrainian counterfire so they pocket that advantage even at this much larger risk. it would be useful -- i ...

Thinks russia could be, quote, about to run out of steam in ukraine. that's what you're talking about, the logistic inflection point. >> yeah, and we've been talking about that for a couple of weeks now. and it's at inflection point. what is going to happen? because this is a battle of logistics. who gets the supplies, and who gets the effective combat power the fastest to counter the other forces? we have not seen russia's forces, even though they are a large and well-equipped allegedly force, they have not been able to conduct operational logistics. we're seeing ukraine improve across the bo...

Using advanced army weapons that are still in development. she mentioned the possibility of a long-range system that could sink ships as they cross the taiwan strait to 200 miles. so she's laying out a sort of pattern of what a war plan might begin to look like where the u.s. would try to deter china militarily with fire against chinese targets, but also try at least to stay out of the way of any chinese counterattack, any chinese counterfire. that's just the beginning. we don't really know how far a u.s. war plan would go at this point, but she went on to talk about deterrence and say that th...

The russian military to chip away at the ukrainians. southern severodonetsk is this area right here, trying to bring it further together, if they can do that, they can slowly advance against the ukrainians. the problem is the soldiers are motivated and they're not particularly successful. where the russians have strength is artillery but that has changed. the ukrainian military is building up their counterfire. with the addition of western weapons coming in, this battle is going to be a hard-fought one and very slow, i think, at this point. the big question, as you zoom out and start to look t...

At the tactical level to resist what russia is doing and then reclaim the initiative, at the operational level, not just the tactical level, they need counterfire. that's what david just described, which means artillery going after artillery. you have to have these deep strikes to set the conditions for the tactical engagements. ukrainians are doing that. but what russia is doing so effectively is they're providing all this artillery fire, rocket fire and they've got the numbers. there could be a point, this is the window we're talking about, where russia wins, but ukraine can come to the tabl...