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Of this. they have to be looked into. the understanding, the division this has created, the people who think donald trump -- they never accepted the election so they sought a criminal path to get them out of office. that's what they want to believe, to the point where the democratic right dull my first presidential candidate says that donald trump engaged in treason. we do need as a nation to have a full, fair, transparent accounting of what has been found. bob mueller, who i have defended since the day but mueller was hired because i still believe in his integrity, he owes it to stand with wi...

Counterintelligence information into him because his conduct and statements were so trouble they thought he might be witting lr on unwittingly an agent of the russians. and you have him to prebrand everything they do, taint it in the eyes of 35% as part of harassment. what does this speak to in your eyes? you worked on some of these committees in terms of his consciousness of guilty? >> it shows he wants to escape scrutiny. he sees oversight not just as a threat to him politically but potentially as exposing some personal liability of his. he seemed to react most stridently to the suggestion b...

And of course it appears that more of it has been corroborated with ensuing developments, and what we've leveraged. >> is there anything in the dossier that has been disproven? >> no, some of it hasn't been proven and some of it -- no, i guess the short answer to the question. >> so clapper of course a frequent punching bag for the president. but he hasn't been in office for a year now. how would he know whether or not there are aspects of the dossier that have yet to be disproven? >> well, i think clapper, one of my former bosses and a long term -- a long time intelligence professional, many,...

Issue about the leaks in the white house and the frustration with the president. as we're bringing in devin nunes into the conversation, as we look at all of this, michael, are we seeing a total breakdown of congressional ethics at this point? >> well, on the house intelligence committee side, there are things going on that are just incomprehensible to me from a law enforcement intelligence standpoint. this fbi memo that -- the memo nunes wrote that the fbi opposed his release gets released with the president's blessing, unbelievable to me. the fact that nunes goes to the white house and has m...

An incoming president. >> well, first, anderson, it's quite remarkable that the fbi, which is a group of patriotic, very professional and very nonpartisan folks had sufficient evidence to get not one but two fisa warrants to collect information, counterintelligence information on mr. manafort. so that in and of itself, who is the campaign manager at the time, of course, and that's quite remarkable. what was going on in those conversations, there has been reporting that these were perhaps conversations with russian operatives. that would be something that if they had a relationship with mr. man...