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>> this is while he was on the campaign. >> while he was leading the campaign. >> stay with us. i also want to bring in the law firm of cordero & toobin. carrie cordero, cnn legal analyst and senior fellow at the center for a new american security. jeffrey toobin is a former federal prosecutor and also a cnn chief legal analyst, or the cnn chief legal analyst. carrie, can you think of any valid reason why manafort would be sharing campaign polling data with someone with ties to russian intelligence allegedly? >> no. i'm a former counterintelligence lawyer. that's some of the work i did at the ...

Kind of discussion. >> this is while he was on the campaign. >> while he was leading the campaign. >> stay with us. i also want to bring in the law firm of cordero and toobin. seen yore fellow at the center for a new american security. jeffrey toobin is a former federal prosecutor and also a cnn chief legal analyst, or the cnn chief legal analyst. carrie, can you think for me valid reason why manafort would be sharing campaign data with someone with ties of russian intelligence allegedly? >> no, i'm a former counterintelligence lawyer. that's some of the work i did at the justice department ye...

That is exactly right. the bottom line is, if you gave any counterintelligence official a choice between being concerned about age is credited dossier, being concerned federal president of the united states has 60,000 emails in the possession of an enemy power and you don't even know what is and 30,000 of them, i think they would view that is a much larger counterintelligence threat than anything that is being raised by the dossier. that is why this issue needs to be re-investigated and looked at. as a counterintelligence issue and problem going forward. >> laura: jeff sessions should convene ...

The bottom line is, if you gave any counterintelligence official a choice between being concerned about a discredited dossier, being concerned that the president of the united states has 60,000 emails in the possession of an enemy power and you don't even know what is and 30,000 of them, i think they would view that is a much larger counterintelligence threat thanr anything that is being raised by the dossier. that is why this issue needs to be re-investigated and looked at. it's a counterintelligence issue and problem going forward. >> laura: jeff sessions should convene an investigation, a r...

Walling on this issue? >> i would say it has been given short shrimp from the beginning. they have never seen this as a counterintelligence issue that i think the reality. we ought to hear from the treasury officials who have expertise on this. we ought to have open hearings on this and yes, in both the house and senate, the republican leadership is ducking what i think is right at the center of this and that's following the money. by the way, steve bannon, i don't quote him often, that's what he said in the wolff book. >> yeah, the book, fire and fury. said the money u laundering was at the h...