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>> i think, katy, the easiest answer is, yes, all of the above. we know from the original mandate that bob mueller received, there were essentially two tasks. first, determine, what if any, determination was given to the russian government and the trump campaign. second, prosecute any crimes that arise out of that investigation. we already know, we think we're done with the prosecution piece of this. it is now the determining issue for all of us to learn what was the counterintelligence piece. and that may be at the end of the day some of the most difficult information to share broadly with al...

Learn. mueller has clearly made a decision that he is done advisors are indicted. i'm saying this on the record whether they like it or not. indicting for his core mission which is russian collusion during the election with members it is best case scenario that of the trump campaign. we've seen no more indictments bob mueller did not finish with in that regard. i think it's unlikely. more indictments in donald trump's orbit. >> and as you said the better but that still believes open a case scenario roit now for what we were going to learn today. range of investigation that's are underway. and ...

Exactly what was going on in the campaign, including trump and russia, has to be at the center of what they're going to report about. >> carol, what are you looking for as this massive mother ship of the mueller probe prepares to not tie a bow on its investigation, but try to condense it, hand it off to the attorney general, having seeded all of these other investigations, criminal or otherwise in other offices? >> i think the thing that you're talking about here, which is the counterintelligence piece, to throw out there what andy mccabe did and first was reported in "the new york times" that...

Door almost immediately. >> nobody is playing nice here. so chuck, what's the question? we heard from glen a lot of people do want to know about the question of how long is this investigation going to go on? we've been talking about that pretty much since before the investigation was actually official. but beyond that, what's your question? >> well, i did want to comment on something glen said. i'm very interested to know when the mueller report will be raerd. i'd love to read it. but i don't think of the mueller thing as the entire thing. mueller has spun off pieces of this case, including to...

Possible he was working on behalf of the russians against america's national security. and it does lay out -- if you read the report in the "new york times," it lays out the reasoning for opening the investigation. it was in part what happened during the campaign, him calling for clinton's e-mails, russia, if you're listening, some of the other investigations they had already been looking into. then some of what else the president said after becoming president. there was a number of things, if you read the article, that explain what is their reasoning was for opening the investigation. we just...