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Reports, we will also look for evidence of crimes. so from the very first, this investigation was a counterintelligence report. not a criminal -- intelligence investigation, not a criminal one. why does that make a difference? because as garrett said, the way that a prosecutor lays out his case is through indictments, cases, guilty pleas. none of those things were designed to clearly tell a comprehensive story. a counterintelligence investigation, on the other hand, which is designed to find out who was trying to spy on us, how and why, is precisely designed to produce a report, and beyond tha...

Investigation looks into whether the president or anyone around him may be compromised by a foreign power. maybe more important than the criminal investigation, as you were talking about. but any counterintelligence investigation, it may go to, you know, the gang of eight or the intelligence committee members, but that would be classified, wouldn't it? i mean, it wouldn't be something that the public would see. >> it -- it could be classified. there is often a nonclassified summary which is produced which can be shared more broadly with members of congress. i think what a counterintelligence r...

That until -- >> i'm not saying you did, i'm asking about the president. >> he did not know about it until it was revealed a few weeks ago in an article. i still haven't seen the testimony, i've seen the article, which is based on leaks. so i don't know what was actually said, what was actually done. >> question for you. >> at this point, i have no real solid knowledge anything like that was done. all i have what was leaked to a newspaper, probably unethically leaked to the newspaper. like that counterintelligence report was leaked to the newspaper and the reporters never bothered to ask -- >>...

>> i'm not saying you did, i'm asking about the president. >> he did not know about it until it was revealed a few weeks ago in an article. i still haven't seen the testimony, i've seen the article, which is based on leaks. so i don't know what was actually said, what was actually done. >> question for you. >> at this point, i have no real solid knowledge anything like that was done. all i have what was leaked to a newspaper, probably unethically leaked to the newspaper. like that counterintelligence report was leaked to the newspaper and the reporters never bothered to ask -- >> it wasn't a l...