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Anxieties about this. >> i do think that gives some comfort. but i hope that the senators push on that in a public forum in testimony under oath. i hope that bill barr is pushed for commitments that he will not shut down the mueller investigation, he will not starve it as resources. that he he will make public a report as far as he can and the american people can hear that directly from bill barr's mouth because that's going to be very important going forward. >> this will be a public hearing next week, bill barr speaking to the american people and the senate as well trying to tell them that t...

Embassy? >> most likely not, but i think it misses the broader point here, which is that mueller is looking at the counterintelligence investigation with two aspects. one is the social media one. we saw the indictment. the second is the hacking of the democratic national committee and podesta. and then as to each, whether there was collusion or coordination with respect to the first social media it's going to be cambridge analytica and the kushner analytics operation and with respect to the hacking it will be roger stone and don jr. and their conversations with wikileaks around the dnc podesta...

Could be suppressing voters of color which was a clear objective. yeah, julia? >> the other thing i wanted to say is there's no chance in hell essentially that any of these 13 russians are going to see justice in the u.s. the u.s. and russia don't have an extradition treaty. there's no way we're ever going to see these people here, face trial here. but this is kind of a shot across the bow to the trump administration. no collusion, no collusion. we keep hearing this from the white house. and saying all of this is a witch hunt, that this is a democratic delusion. and here trump is sending -- th...

Extensive financial ties between russian-backed entities and the trump organization. that, in my mind, if it is true would be a relevant fact from a counterintelligence standpoint. >> you're the ranking member of the senate intelligence committee. which questioned donald trump jr. today behind closed doors. is donald trump jr., is he being forthcoming? >> listen, i'm not going to comment about his testimony this morning. we don't talk about that testimony, but if you simply look at the public record, whether it is the case of the meeting where russians were offering in effect dirt on hillary c...

>> yeah. i think your defense of hillary clinton starts from her side. but from the russian perspective, look, they were trying to interfere with our election. once they had the contact through to tphps and s.e.a.l. and so forth, they could work it from the other end. as we saw with facebook and google, they didn't just support trump. they were around ferguson stirring things up and other activities like that. so once they had that connection, whether the dnc and the clinton campaign started out looking to connect up with the russians, ultimately they did. but a question from the counterintell...