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He was on the campaign trail. nobody was talking about immigration until i came along. in some respects that is true. he made it a much bigger issue than it was. the undocumented immigrants coming across the border, correct me if i'm wrong on the numbers, were down significantly since i believe some time in the early 2000s, down significantly than where they were. donald trump comes along, he starts campaigning, campaigns on building a wall, campaigns on all of this crime, ms-13, murdering families, he used a couple examples. the first time that i sat down with him in the interview i did in ju...

Apology? >> no. i do not -- i have never talked to her. but i did say publicly on more than one occasion that i was sorry. that's very different. the apology was public. >> it is very different, keith. >> he did say on more than one ootion -- >> he said publicly i said it, but he never spoke to her directly. >> i don't know what he means by this, and quite frankly i'm not involved directly. but it wouldn't hurt to apologize. it's not a hard thing to do. it happened 20 years ago. he would be forgiven if he apologized and move on. it was a consensual adult relationship. but i think he needs to l...

Immediately to mind? >> well, i'm glad you asked that because here's what i learned from unabomber and from the olympic bombing, tucker. even in leading the task forces there, we tried to stay away from motive. now, motive is important if you may have a name. but, when you are trying to get on the trail to identify subject, you can absolutely find yourself in the swamp and think back a couple examples. after the oklahoma city bombing. all of the uproar and the crying about middle eastern arabs, quote, being involved in that, that turned out to obviously be domestic terrorism. think about anthr...

Sosht ever presenting a foreign poly. there was such a kwooid wide gulf between the rhetoric and reality here. there were a couple examples. he said we have to call out the enablers, the people who are enable these rogue regimes. the only time he mentioned russia, the only time he mentioned china, it was to thank them for supporting sanctions resolutions at the u.n. he said nothing about their role supporting asaweassad. the tell was when he said it's one of the worse deals you've heard. believe me. believe me means this is bluster. what has the donald trump u trump administration done on the ...

Reality here. there were a couple examples. he said we have to call out the enablers, the people who are enable these rogue regimes. the only time he mentioned russia, the only time he mentioned china, it was to thank them for supporting sanctions resolutions at the u.n. he said nothing about their role supporting aassad. the tell was when he said it's one of the worse deals you've heard. believe me. believe me means this is bluster. what has the donald trump u trump administration done on the iran deal? they've certified that iran season complying with it every single month. doesn't seem like...