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Violation of the espionage act, that obama administration officials got embarrassed and decided to impose these media guidelines that were designed to have greater scrutiny of media subpoenas. now, you know, i do think sessions is sending a message here, but just on its face, the review of the media guidelines is probably not as significant as it sounds because the essence of the media guidelines was to require a higher level of review. >> no, a higher level -- >> for subpoenas of journalists. >> i think that's fair, michael. a couple points. that higher level of review was put in as a safegua...

I think that's what sarah was hoping would happen. i think that's exactly what we were hoping would happen. thank you. >> pretty remarkable exchange. let's dig deeper into all of this. jim acosta is still with us. we're going to get to you in a moment along with our cnn cornell brooks, former head of the naacp and april ryan, correspondent for radio networks. she was in the briefing as well. cornell, what do you think? he repeatedly made the point this new policy that he and the president would like to unveil would benefit african-americans, hispanics, other low-income folks here in the united...

That was passed overwhelmingly by the house and senate. >> richard, stand by. susan, i want to go to you here. richard mentioned this is somewhat in proportion to those actions the obama administration took. we know there's been reports that the russians have been trying to get their american compounds back for their use. what's your view of what the russians are doing here? >> well, a couple points. first of all, what was remarkable was when president obama imposed the sanctions in response to the 2016 election hacking back in december, remember putin did not impose measures against the unite...

Love him or much stronger than that, despise him. as far as let trump be trump, general kelly does not strike me as a let trump be trump guy. i think there will be some pushback. whether it is successful is a whole other question. this is a waist first, raw meat, does nothing to reach out to the 54% or whatever it is that are not supporting him. >> hold on. >> it is similar to the rhetoric that he used during the campaign at rallies when there were protesters. he would encourage his supporters to rough them up. he would say get them out. a couple points, offered to pay the legal bills of suppo...

Banning several thousand people from the armed forces, how that might affect readiness? >> well, we don't. and the word "readiness" is really a red herring to stall any debate. look, i want to make a couple points. i think there is an issue of the politics of the military. it's an issue of what the law says and what congress has the ability to do. and also the potential for lawsuits to block this on the back end. on the politics in the military, what i'm most -- what strikes me the most is how this comes down completely the opposite way that the don't ask, don't tell repeal went down. so i cov...