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Makes -- you can see the deep state is out to get him but look how easy he makes it for the deep state to get him by doing what he does and, yet, you have with the exception of chris christie saying he is unfit. everyone has to rally around the victim complex thing and i think it's an incredibly dysfunctional dynamic. >> this is why what happened earlier opportunity as anderson cooper was talking to chris sununu. chris isn't running but has been running against largely a rhetorical campaign against trump. here's what he said about the indictment today. >> well, look, i think there's a couple p...

>> i think there's a couple problems here that folks are glossing over. the average american saw boxes sitting in donald trump's mar-a-lago. they saw boxes behind biden's corvette. and the average american is going, what's the difference? why do you charge one and not the other? i'm it's the conduct and what was going on and the intention behind what was going on with those documents with the former president. but the onus, the burden of proof is actually on the department of justice. >> he spent, i would say, probably two-thirds of that interview attacking the department of justice. >> well, ...

Folks are experts in ai can figure out it was a fake but it really shows a couple problems that is the growing threat from deep fakes and also because it was retweeted on twitter by some pay to play book blue check accounts. that's a problem. >> it is a problem and sadly we are really learning lessons we should have already learned, it's been 10 years since the syrian electronic army in april 2013 actually hacked into the apd's accounts on twitter claimed a bomb had gone off and maybe obama was hurt. on that day the stock market took a wild ride before they corrected themselves realizing it wa...

Crimes. how solid you think this particular charge is going to be? >> that's difficult to answer, charles, until we hear more from these people. but let me make this clear. we have to talk about this in two separate contexts. the specific context in terms of what it means legally, but then we also have to talk about it in the context of what this means in the overall makeup of this case. and in that context, giuliani has a couple problems here. the first one is, juries don't like lawyers. plain and simple. they barely like us when we're standing up in front of them arguing. they definitely don...

This case. in that context, giuliani has a couple problems here. the first one is, juries don't like lawyers. plain and simple. they barely like us when we're standing up in front of them arguing. they definitely don't like us when we are on trial. the only thing they like less than lawyers are liars. by the time this case gets charred trial, there's going to be any number of things that can be used to impeach giuliani based on his credibility, his ability to testify truthfully. now, the laws a game of nerves. add to that, we start talking about him selling pardons, we're not just talking abou...