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But even more impressive and even more hopeful frankly, the fact that afghans from the region are beginning to want to join the police and the army. they're beginning to perform better when they're in the police and the army. they're tyke taking the fight to enemy. i had more than one or two american officers tell me these afghans in the place and security forces are starting to fight better than iraqis in fact when they were training iraqis in anbar province in other parts of that country a few years ago. so it was an encouraging visit from that point of view. jenna: michael, in your opinion ...

Big supporter at least in terms of logistics and men and materiel for the insurgent groups. so al qaeda is still the ultimate concern. we don't want to allow a government that would return to invite al qaeda back in. but it is not really the enemy we're fighting in afghanistan at the moment. jenna: what i'm hearing from you petraeus is working in afghanistan. a combination of years and years of work but petraeus's leadership on this seems to be working in the right direction. we do know that he's been nominating to get out of afghanistan to head the cia what are your thoughts on that? from you...

Jenna: do we try it again in a different way? >> yeah, right, because it didn't work before let's do it again. no, i think what we have to do is we have to go back to the thing that we've always done in the past when we want to make the economy grow and want jobs to grow and that is encourage the conditions that induce businesses to invest and create long term growth. jenna: let me stop you there, let me stop you for a second because that's we hear from republicans a lot. cut taxes, and cut the spending. >> you hear it from economists a lot. jenna: absolutely. a diverse group of economists say...

Pontchartrain for a while. it has to get down here to where we're releasing water into the morganza river and that will flood that. it takes time. water from the spillway is only a third of the way down. it cams all the way down and back flows into the tributaries. about a week from now this entire area will be flooded anywhere from five to 20 feet of water. that will flood out a lot of these communities. what they don't want to see is more rain. they're not getting any across the southern part of the mississippi. but take a look over next five-days. a very strong system moving in. it will bri...

But make no mistake, every time a child is kidnapped and raped, there is always extreme psychological injury. so i don't think this is going anywhere and i think it is embarrassing that the defense is even trying frankly. jenna: appearances can also be deceiving. only what we see of her. we don't know that much, i don't personally, what elizabeth smart is going through. you say this is probably unlikely that it will affect his sentence. could we see the judge, i don't know, give even a harsher sentence? is there anything else that can be done as far as this sentence for this man stands? >> jud...