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If they do, though, of course mueller could try to bring indictments. he could test that possibility. or mueller could do a report, maybe a ken starr-style, you know, potboiler report that might be made public. or mueller could deliver the findings of the grand jury to congress to form the basis of impeachment proceedings against the president or vice president if the findings of the grand jury, the evidence uncovered by the grand jury warrants that. and now as of today for the first time in u.s. history we can see what the historical precedent would be for mueller doing just that. if mueller ...

It is, of course, possible that the mueller investigation and the grand jury he's working with, it's totally possible they will find no wrongdoing whatsoever to the president or vice president. if they do, though, of course mueller could try to bring indictments. he could test that possibility. or mueller could do a report, maybe a ken starr-style, you know, potboiler report that might be made public. or mueller could deliver the findings of the grand jury to congress, to form the basis of impeachment proceedings against the president or vice president if the findings of the grand jury, the ev...

>> and implicate president trump in those things. evan, you also have some new reporting tonight on the state of the mueller investigation. repeated meetings between his team and paul manafort, also about when mueller might issue his report. what are you hearing? >> well, yeah. so, this is supposed to be a quiet hearing because we're leading up to the midterm elections in november, but behind the scenes, the mueller team has been very busy. they brought in the paul manafort for at least nine interviews, hours that they've spent with the special counsel's office now getting information from pau...

Midterms? >> they've got a lot to talk about. and that's the kind of intense interaction you're going to have when you're a cooperator. there's nothing you can hold back. they're going to ask everything you possibly know. i think it's interesting with this much grand jury activity, though, as evan is pointing out, it seems like they'd be hard pressed to do a final report even that quickly on that timetable, so it's possible there's going to be more than one report. i mean, i suppose there even could be some sort of interim report, but it just seems like there's a lot of activity going on to ac...

Up so i guess if they hear that report's going to be issued after the midterms, they might be happy about it but then they hear that nine visits between manafort and mueller, that wouldn't fill me with confidence. >> they've been eager for this to wrap up as soon as possible for more than a year and had been telling the president as early as last year at this time that it's just around the corner, thanksgiving maybe, and you know, here we are a year later. i think for sure, they want this tom to an end but there are still so many unknowns. evan's right. it's been a quiet period. they've been q...