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Bring republicans on the right and left together on the healthcare. how can you cut costs and up the number of people that get coverage at the same time? let's bring in tom bevin. he's from real clear politics. the republicans have an issue here. can you help explain it? >> well, they're in a political pickle. they have a big problem, the big sticking point with the cbo, the coverage issue. the loss of coverage. you heard sean spicer try the address repeatedly in the press conference. the cbo says 14 million will lose coverage next year. 24 million by 2026. so that is a p.r. problem for republ...

On the coverage issue, we don't know the financial issue yet, on the coverage issue a couple of estimates out there. one as high as 15 million fewer people covered according to one estimate by brookings that that's what they believe the congressional budget office will show when they're able to come out with an estimate. 15 million. is that an acceptable number to you? is that what it really is? do you go back and say we have to tweak this? >> i'll tell you the plan that we leave out here will not leave that number of individuals covered. i believe we'll have more individuals covered and we'll...

The second is what's to hit to the deficit? on the coverage issue, we don't know the financial issue yet, on the coverage issue a couple of estimates out there. one as high as 15 million fewer people covered according to one estimate by brookings that that's what they believe the congressional budget office will show when they're able to come out with an estimate. 15 million. is that an acceptable number to you? is that what it really is? do you go back and say we have to tweak this? >> i'll tell you the plan that we leave out here will not leave that number of individuals covered. i believe w...

we won't make you do it. and that only increases premiums for older folks, does it not? >> we say to that 30, 35-year-old individual, you know that you need health coverage. what we're going to do is provide you a system that allows you an array of choices that you can choice the coverage plan that works best for you and your family, not be dictated to by the federal government and have to purchase something that you most likely do not need. >> we have two pieces of information we do not have yet and there is vong already going on in congress. how many people will be covered and the second ...

family, not be dictated to by the federal government and have to purchase something that you most likely do not need. >> we have two pieces of information we do not have yet and there is vong already going on in congress. how many people will be covered and the second is what's the hit to the deficit. on the coverage issue, we don't know financial issue. on the coverage issue a couple estimates out there. one as high as 15 million fewer people covered. that's what they believe the congressional budget office is going to end up showing when they finally are able to come out with an estimate....