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This bill falls short. it drives costs up by decreasing deductibles -- increasing deductibles and eliminating some of the tax credits, and that individual mandate while it is about as possible as vegetables are to my kids, it's one of the things that keeps premiums low. this is going to see coverage loss from medicaid, and it is going to drive millions of americans away from the market for just affordability concerns. >> jon: larry come he said it could destabilize the insurance market. why? >> as andy said, it repeals the individual it and it mandate which has been what got people enrolled an...

That would mean grappling with the reality of reforming health care, and not just throwing stones from the sidelines, that is why i have been saying and i will say again, the republican alternative to obama care is a unicorn. it's beautiful, it's mythical and it does not exist. joining me now, the president of the center for american progress. what do you think, are we going to see a real republican alternative to obama care? >> actually, the republican alternatives that have circulated in the past, so when senator mccain campaigned on, the ones created by think tanks notice last year or so, t...

A health care plan that had 20 million people lose the coverage they had. so, without better alternatives. so, i think the idea that -- >> i don't -- >> no, no -- >> i know. but i'm just saying, it's a little hypocritical to hear complaints about coverage loss from someone who's authored a plan -- >> all right. thirty seconds to respond about a plan that doesn't exist. go ahead. >> it doesn't, no. but it's your plan. so, criticizing the president for a plan that would have less -- >> ok. we have your point. mr. capretta? >> she's wrong. my -- >> i'm not. >> yes, the plan i drafted, which i wou...