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Reach out to as many different constituencies as possible. they know they have a tough road ahead. >> democrats saying this will not come near as covering as many people as obamacare does. >> reporter: what we haven't seen yet is the congressional budget office score. it gives a tally of how much it will cost and how many people will be covered. they've been trading proposals back and forth with the cbo over the past couple weeks. the reality is this, they're going to come far short of the coverage numbers that obamacare provide th provides. when you talk to republicans, they acknowledge this ...

Obamacare. >> bret: recent polls, pew. fox news, favorable is 50%. take a look at the chart of the real clear politics average. that's changed as well. people are worried they are going to lose what they have through obamacare. can you say that the coverage numbers are going to be as high as currently being covered? >> this is important because right now the coverage numbers to the affordable care act are going down. the status quo is not acceptable and that's when our friends on the other side of the aisle don't seem to appreciate. we have one-third of the counties in the nation only offering...

Universal coverage. he's more concerned with the idea of universal access. as long as everyone has a chance to buy a plan, the republicans at this point seem less concerned with keeping up with the coverage numbers we've seen under the affordable care act. >> part of the problem here, right, and it's a problem for the affordable care act as well that it's just not a normal market good. the whole point when your son breaks his arm is that you don't know how bad it is because you're not a doctor. and that's true of a whole lot of things about whether you're going to get the best cancer treatment...

As long as everyone has a chance to buy a plan, the republicans at this point seem less concerned with keeping up with the coverage numbers we've seen under the affordable care act. >> part of the problem here, right, and it's a problem for the affordable care act as well that it's just not a normal market good. the whole point when your son breaks his arm is that you don't know how bad it is because you're not a doctor. and that's true of a whole lot of things about whether you're going to get the best cancer treatment or anything that's happening in that doctor's office. it just seems like w...

President talked about and the president referenced the bill i had with tom coburn and richard burr which coverses those 30 million people and gets us toward full coverage, in america without all of these new tax increases and without all of the medicare cuts. so, we believe we can get to the same coverage numbers without having a government takeover of health care. >> chris: how do you -- generally, how do you do that? how do you cover 27 million other people? >> we propose to do it through refundable tax credits and give people the ability to have tax credits by ending discrimination of thos...